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Find all primes p and q such that p + q =

(p − q)3.​

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Answered by aatifnasir2009
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The following has been unanswered in art of problem solving and other forums for months.

Find all primes p,q such that

p3+p=q7+q

One solution is (5,2) and it has been computer checked that there is no other solution till 107.

I am really curious to see a complete solution.

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Where does this particular equation come from? We could ask whether a particular Diophantine equation has a solution in primes (when finding an integral solution is hard enough), but why is that interesting? – anomaly May 7 '17 at 22:40

Well , I don't know if there is anything interesting to be found from it but I wanted to see if it can be solved using highschool olympiad mathematics.As i said many have tried but all failed so I posted it here as a last resort. – Andreas Ch. May 7 '17 at 22:49

If it's an unsolved problem in maths, I think you could be better off on MathOverflow, though I'd hardly hope for a solution on a whiff on any forum. – AspiringMathematician May 7 '17 at 22:51

you will have a prime pair solution when 1+p2+q6=0modpq – Ahmad May 7 '17 at 23:58

answer1

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Assume we have another solution, so that q≥3. We know that p(p2+1)=q(q2+1)(q4−q2+1). We also have p>q2+1. In fact, otherwise p≤q2+1 and then

q7+q=p3+p≤(q2+1)3+q2+1=q6+3q4+4q2+2,

and so q7<q6+3q4+4q2+2<2q6, which is impossible if q≥3.

Since we also have p>q, it follows that p|(q4−q2+1) and so there exist a natural number k such that pk=q4−q2+1. But then

p(p2+1)=q(q2+1)pk,

and so p2+1=q(q2+1)k. This implies

p2k2+k2=q(q2+1)k3.

Since p2k2=(q4−q2+1)2, we arrive finally at

(q4−q2+1)2+k2=q(q2+1)k3,

which we rewrite as

(q3+q)(q5−3q3+6q)−8q2+1+k2=(q3+q)k3.

So we obtain

(1)(q3+q)(k3−q5+3q3−6q)=k2+1−8q2.

It follows that k2+1≡0modq.

Let y∈{0,1,…,q−1} be such that k≡ymodq.

If y<q−1−−−−√ or q−y<q−1−−−−√, then 0≤y2<q−1 or q(2y−q)≤y2<q(2y−q)+q−1, so in particular it is impossible that k2≡y2≡−1modq.

Now, since k3≡−k≡−ymodq, for any N∈N we have |k3+qN|≥q−1−−−−√. So, from (1), we deduce that

|1+k2−8q2|=(q3+q)|k3+q(3q2−q4−6)|≥(q3+q)q−1−−−−√.

By hand one verifies that q=3, q=5 and q=7 are not solutions, so we can assume q>8, hence q3>8q2 and so necessarily k2+1>8q2 and then |1+k2−8q2|=k2+1−8q2<k2.

So we arrive at

k2>q3q−1−−−−√.

But then k12>q18(q−1)3 and so

(p2+1)12=k12q12(q2+1)12>q18(q−1)3q12(q2+1)12>q54(q−1)3.

On the other hand p>10 implies 2p8>(p2+1)4, and so

(p2+1)12=(p2+1)8(p2+1)4<2(p2+1)8p8=2(p3+p)8=2(q7+q)8.

Putting the inequalities together, we obtain finally

2(q7+q)8>q54(q−1)3,(∗)

which is impossible, since the left hand side is of order 56 and the right hand side has order 57.

Detailed proof that (*) is impossible:

Since q>10, we have that q−1>910q and since (910)3>12, we obtain (q−1)3>q32. Hence (*) implies

4(q6+1)8>q49,(∗∗)

On the other hand, for any α>106 we have 2α8>(α+1)8, for example, using that (1+1α)8<(1+10−6)8<2.

In particular, for α=q6>106, we have 2(q6)8>(q6+1)8, and so from (**) we obtain

8q48=4(2(q6)8)>4(q6+1)8>q49,

which is impossible, since q>8.

Note: The proof uses crucially that p is prime when deducing that p divides q4−q2+1. However, the condition that q is prime is not needed.

Well, (1+1α)8<(1+1255)8<2 is simpler... – guest May 12 '17 at 2:36

Such a simple solution! Me and the creator of this problem congratulate you and thank you for your help. – Andreas Ch. May 12 '17 at 10:17

Could you highlight the specific point(s) in this proof where the assumption that p and (especially) q are primes is used? – Barry Cipra May 12 '17 at 13:47

I only used that p is prime, when I deduced that p divides q4−q2+1, and used that q>8, checking primes 3,5,7 by hand, for which it was not really necessary for q to be prime. – san May 12 '17 at 13:59  

My edit was only for a small typo. Following (1), in the sentence "So,from (1), we deduce that....", the term −6q appeared as −6. – DanielWainfleet May 12 '17 at 15:45

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