Math, asked by Vishwas007, 1 year ago

if the sum of all positive rational numbers n such that
 \sqrt{{n}^{2} + 84n + 1941
is an integer is
 \frac{189}{k}
then find k?

Answers

Answered by JinKazama1
8
Question seems some Typo :
But, I am giving answer as data provided in question.

Steps :
1) Let there be positive integer 'm' such that

 \sqrt{ {n}^{2} + 84n + 1941} = m \\ = > {n}^{2} + 84n + 1941 = {m}^{2}

2) Now,

 {n}^{2} + 84n + 1941 - {m}^{2} =0
By observing this as Quadratic in 'n'.
Use Quadratic Formula to get ' n ' in terms of m
Then,

n = \frac{ - 84 + \sqrt{ {84}^{2} - 4(1941 - {k}^{2}) } }{2} \: \:

Since, n is positive, so we rejected negative part of solution.

 = > n = \frac{ - 84 + 2 \sqrt{ {m}^{2} - 177 } }{2} \\ \: \: \: \: \: \: \: \: \: n = - 42 + \sqrt{ {m}^{2} - 177 }

3) Now,
Since, m is positive integer and n is positive rational number and looking at above expression .
=> n must be positive integer.

4) Hence, we have to find solutions such that 'n' and 'm' both are positive integers.
Let m^2-177= k^2 where m, k > 0 and integer.

Then, we have two cases possible.
m^2 - k^2 = 177
(m-k)(m + k) = 177 * 1
177 is prime.
=> m - k = 1 ----(1)
m + k = 177 -----(2)
Solution : m =( 177+1)/2 = 89 , k = 88

Case : 2
(m-k) (m + k) = 3 * 59
Now,
m -k = 3 ----(3)
m + k = 59 ----(4)
Solution : m = 31 ,k = 28

Here, if m = 31 then value of n becomes negative.
n = -42 + 28 = -14 ( rejected)
Extra :
m = 31 also gives integer solution to k, but here
n = -42 + 31 = -11 is negative and hence, it is not in our solution set.

5) Hence,
n =( - 42 + \sqrt{ {89}^{2} - 177} ) \\ = > n \: = - 42 + \sqrt{7744} \\ = > n \: = - 42 + 88 = 46

Therefore,
There exists only one solution such that 'n' and 'm' are positive integers .
That is, m = 89 , n = 46 .
There is only one positive rational value of n= 46 .

QGP: But it doesn't satisfy the 189/k condition
JinKazama1: Here, User who asked the question, had done typo while writing the quadratic form in root.
JinKazama1: That's, why We are getting answer which seems unreliable on looking at 189/k
QGP: Ohh, so the actual question might be having slightly different values. Thanks for that. But I am still wondering how we know that there's only one possible solution. I don't yet know about Number Theory Manipulations. So is it something like: we try to find Pythagorean Triplets? And whatever we can find are the valid solutions?
QGP: Hmm. Now I am beginning to see the logic. Thanks Again :)
JinKazama1: For integer positive sides of right triangle
JinKazama1: Thanks : Answer is edited : Explained number theory Manipulation and ,multiple solutions exist but due to our constraint in value of n is positive and integral .We rejected other solution and we got only one solution.
QGP: Oh Great! I understand the answer even better now :)
Answered by bhanucharan49
0

Answer:

46 is the answer I hope

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