Dialog two friends kunfu and karate
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An imaginary conversation between a master and student
(This is karate related)
Master: “Kata were recorded in order to teach self defence.”
Student: “Why don’t kata look like you are fighting an imaginary opponent?”
Master: “Kata act as a document for techniques. They are not supposed to be taken so literally.”
Student: “Why does one often have to adapt the movements found in kata in order to use them for self defence?”
Master: “Kata document principles not specific techniques.”
Student: “Why do kata teach many body habits that are unlike the body habits required in pugilism?”
Master: “Kata contain adaptable principles and not specific principles of various pugilistic methods.”
Student: “In that case how do you know that kata definitely related to pugilism?”
Master: “In documented history kata have always been associated with self defence.”
Student: “How do you know that kata were associated with self defence prior to documented history?”
Master: “I don’t know, but I believe that kata were recorded in order to teach self defence.”
Student: “Why do you believe that?”
Master: “It’s what my master told me.”
Student: “And why did you believe him?”
Master: “It’s what his master told him.”
Student: “But that doesn’t make it true.”
Master: “Granted, but you can either choose to believe it or choose not do karate!”
Student: “Isn’t there another way?”
Master: “I suppose you could admit that you don’t know what kata are for.”
Student: “Why didn’t you choose that path?”
Master: “How much confidence would you have in me as a master if I told you I didn’t know what kata are for?”
Student: “I’d probably ask why we bother practising them.”
Master: “And I would probably be inclined not to teach them and then I wouldn’t even be teaching karate. We’d be no different from, say, kickboxers.”
Student: “So karate exists because people doing it choose to believe that that kata were recorded in order to teach self defence.”
Master: “Exactly.”
Student: “So this belief really defines membership of the traditional karate community.”
Master: “Exactly.”
Student: “Funny, I never realised that karate was based on a belief. It’s a bit like a religion.”
Master: “Well there you go and now you know.”
Student: “Why didn’t you tell me when I first started practising?”
Master: “If I tell you that something that I believe is just a belief then this seems to devalue it. But you like karate don’t you so what’s the problem?”
Student: “You’ve got me there.”
An imaginary conversation between a master and student
(This is karate related)
Master: “Kata were recorded in order to teach self defence.”
Student: “Why don’t kata look like you are fighting an imaginary opponent?”
Master: “Kata act as a document for techniques. They are not supposed to be taken so literally.”
Student: “Why does one often have to adapt the movements found in kata in order to use them for self defence?”
Master: “Kata document principles not specific techniques.”
Student: “Why do kata teach many body habits that are unlike the body habits required in pugilism?”
Master: “Kata contain adaptable principles and not specific principles of various pugilistic methods.”
Student: “In that case how do you know that kata definitely related to pugilism?”
Master: “In documented history kata have always been associated with self defence.”
Student: “How do you know that kata were associated with self defence prior to documented history?”
Master: “I don’t know, but I believe that kata were recorded in order to teach self defence.”
Student: “Why do you believe that?”
Master: “It’s what my master told me.”
Student: “And why did you believe him?”
Master: “It’s what his master told him.”
Student: “But that doesn’t make it true.”
Master: “Granted, but you can either choose to believe it or choose not do karate!”
Student: “Isn’t there another way?”
Master: “I suppose you could admit that you don’t know what kata are for.”
Student: “Why didn’t you choose that path?”
Master: “How much confidence would you have in me as a master if I told you I didn’t know what kata are for?”
Student: “I’d probably ask why we bother practising them.”
Master: “And I would probably be inclined not to teach them and then I wouldn’t even be teaching karate. We’d be no different from, say, kickboxers.”
Student: “So karate exists because people doing it choose to believe that that kata were recorded in order to teach self defence.”
Master: “Exactly.”
Student: “So this belief really defines membership of the traditional karate community.”
Master: “Exactly.”
Student: “Funny, I never realised that karate was based on a belief. It’s a bit like a religion.”
Master: “Well there you go and now you know.”
Student: “Why didn’t you tell me when I first started practising?”
Master: “If I tell you that something that I believe is just a belief then this seems to devalue it. But you like karate don’t you so what’s the problem?”
Student: “You’ve got me there.”
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